What the Owners of Next White Say about the Next Group
Regarding the elevator situation
âWe have cameras, security, a reception. If they canât control who comes in, then what are we paying for?
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I personally climbed up at 00:05 with my child. A new month had begun and it hadnât been paid yet.
Reception wouldnât renew my chip because of the debt :)
Nobody was going to take me up at night either.
They handed me a payment slip đ€Ąâ
âI donât want to be dealing with couriers.
I have two small children; to go downstairs in winter I have to dress both of them, switch off whatever is cooking, and dress myself.
With naps, I also have to wake the child up,
or else time naps against deliveries. Given that I order more than one delivery a day, imagine at least roughly how much inconvenience this chip causes me.
Itâs a complete shambles.â
âOriginally, when people were buying apartments here, clients were told there would be no chipsâŠâ
âGood evening, everyone. Tell me, has our building actually been handed over already?â
âWhat matters is that the charges are already accruing đâ
âEveryone understands that. I think by law they canât restrict anything â let them file a claim against the debtor in court. They know they wonât win anything in court. So they take matters into their own hands.â
âHowever much they may want to, I donât think they can restrict ownersâ access to their homes. We all paid for these lifts, like the rest of the common property, when we bought our apartments.â
âThey never asked us whether it would suit us to keep fiddling with these lift chips â they did it on the quiet and never asked our opinion.â
âWhy should those who pay suffer? Thatâs not our problem; Next themselves should deal specifically with those who donât pay! I pay, and for a week Iâve been walking through dirt in the entrance! I went to reception today and nothing has changed! So the question is: what am I paying for?! They donât accept parcels, they donât clean, security is responsible for nothingâŠâ
âYes, Saba just said so. When I asked why they are doing this without agreeing it with the residents, he simply shut the door on me đĄ
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Today I went over and said maybe you should discuss decisions with the owners â maybe I was blunt, but I certainly didnât raise my voice. What did the staff do? They shut the door on me. How do you suggest we communicate with them, then?â
âMaybe I never even asked them for this. Hereâs whatâs interesting: say I donât pay for electricity, then they wonât supply it, theyâll cut it off. Likewise, the management company could stop cleaning for me. Why do they go further and restrict my lift â which doesnât belong to them?â
âAlthough, I repeat â I was told the chips are being installed for our peace of mind and safety.â
âWell, that is untrue, to put it mildly. We understand the reason perfectly well.â
âHave they gone completely mad? What chips on the stairs?) Or are they removing security altogether? Whatâs the logic?â
âYou might be able to climb up, but you wonât be able to open the door to your floor.
There will be no access to the apartments.â
âI was told the chip will be tied to debt for building management (per living area), since people donât pay and many have debts đđ„ș
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Every resident will have a card; whoever is in debt will simply be switched off, and the person will walk. If Iâm not mistaken, itâs exactly the same system at NEXT ORANGE.â
â1. The chips wonât be removed. The system installed is makeshift; a proper one with codes needs money. Theyâll do it someday.
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7. Later theyâll put chips on the stairs too, and cameras there as well.â
âOtherwise they threaten to put the lifts on chips if people donât pay.â
âNow, because many donât pay, theyâre putting chips in our lifts. And if youâre 5 days in arrears, you canât use the lift. Walk. Thatâs how it all started.â
âIt was the same at Next Orange. They fought and achieved nothing. And the chips work badly too. And then they raised the service fee. So expect it here too, most likely: both chips and a price increase.â
âOwners having different contracts is, of course, nonsense. Itâs the first time Iâve come across such a thing. And some clauses differ drastically. We live in the same building, yet everyoneâs contractual rights and obligations are different)
Some are ârespectedâ more; others arenât even greeted and their complaints go unanswered.â
âNext announced they had âraised pricesâ from the 1st, and their cleaning smoothly went up from 60 lari to 230)â
âEveryone suffers if this contract isnât changed! The management company has the right to raise the service tariff without our permission, to put advertising and lighting on the facadeâŠ. And we keep quiet and pay for everythingâŠâ
Other potential criminal conduct
âI have reason to believe that Next staff may have used my apartment for personal purposes, although my apartment is not under their management.
I wanted to request the CCTV footage, but the security service refused.â
âWe pay for a service that includes security, yet we have no access to security.â
âThey took a day to think it over and refused đ â
Regarding bad faith
âNext hasnât fulfilled its obligations, we havenât signed the apartment acceptance act, they donât answer our claims, and they demand the service fee.
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The late-delivery penalty hasnât been paid, the furnishings (furniture/appliances) arenât complete per the act, and there are finishing defects that havenât been fixed.
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We wrote ten times, to the Lolas and all their predecessors, by email, and handed over a written claim on paper: zero reaction.â
âReception refuses to accept parcels.
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When I bought the apartment, the manager, of course, promised me it was a concierge service, so convenient)). If Iâm not in, theyâd take the delivery.
A circus.
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Apart from taking payment, they havenât helped me with a single thing)â
âIn the car park, almost every part of our car was damaged. Security did nothing.
No action from Next followed either.
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They know everything; they simply donât care.
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For some reason the lift codes work for the commercial units; we could ask why this function was disabled for owners.â
âI spoke to Saba about it [a cleaning schedule]; he said they donât have one in any building and that itâs impossible to do. I countered: if thereâs a payment schedule, there should also be a schedule of work, showing what weâre supposed to be paying for, so we can check whether it was done and how well.â
âNo, the contract is full of holes. It was made just so thereâd be one, and to protect the developer.â
âA contract is mutual agreement. How they can dictate service terms unilaterally is not at all clear.â
âTell me, am I the only one so lucky: the documents include a balcony, I paid for it, and I arrived to find it hadnât been built?
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It was in the specification, it was there when the contract was signed, it was included in the price. Next itself admitted it, but said: well, thatâs how it is, these things happen.â
âWe havenât taken ownership; weâre waiting for them to hand over what they owe: the smart lock, the balcony furniture, etc. They refused to sign an acceptance act listing the defects; they want us to sign an act âwithout claimsâ, which makes no sense at all.â
âWhen I bought the apartments and said I wouldnât let them out through you, they told me the management agreement is merely a formality for the state authorities. âWe wonât force you to hand anything over to our management. Itâs voluntary.ââ
âThe administration is silent, as always.
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i.e. the administration decided not to bother anyone over such a matter.â
âWe contacted the developer several times about protecting [the boilers] from flooding, but things are still where they were. They did nothing.â
âI handed my studio over to Next Whiteâs management. I paid for dishes and bedding. They were supposed to connect the TV. And silence!â
âThen why take peopleâs money for something you have no intention of delivering?â
Regarding low-quality service
âThe logical question is why I pay the full price for a property in which all I have is a reception. At $1 there should have been a lot more; there isnât even a basic gym.â
âToday at 12:10 I got a message that the electricity would be off from 12:00 to 18:00. Very much in advance, especially for a planned outage)))â
Evidence
These messages were taken and anonymized from the unofficial owners chat of Next White. The corresponding WhatsApp export is part of the manifest sent to the police and to the Prosecutor's Office, and has SHA-256 digest
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Over time more messages appeared in the chat, and the latest version considered for this dossier has digest
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